SLT 020: Organizing Your Clothes Closet & Mentoring Your Younger Self

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Organizing Your Clothes Closet & Mentoring Our Younger Selves

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Vanessa Topic: Organizing Your Clothes Closet

  • Since we started the Edit and Forget Challenge, there are a couple of things that I’ve noticed:
    • A lot of folks love the idea of editing, but they’re having a tough time convincing their significant others to jump on board. So the biggest piece of advice we give them is to listen to Episode 11 With Joshua Becker of Becoming Minimalist, where he shares some tips on how to work with your loved ones.  Basically he recommends to start with your own stuff first.
    • I also noticed most folks start with editing their clothes. I guess it just seems like a natural place to start because most of us have our own clothes that we don’t share with anyone else.  I also think folks start in their closets because you can make a significant impact visually…letting go of 20 pieces of clothing frees up a lot more space than 20 pieces of paper or 20 paper clips.
  • Well one of the side effects to all this editing that we’ve encouraged, is that I’ve gotten a few questions about what to with the clothes that are left behind and how to organize these newly freed-up closets!
  • I’ve already talked about how to organize any space back in Episode 12 As a quick recap, I use a four step process: N…A…P…O

 – Determine your Needs

Assess your space

Edit your space

Organize your space

  • For the folks out there who have already edited…I recommend going back to the previous two steps:  Decide if your NEEDS have changed….and Re-ASSESS your space to decide how you’ll now utilize it.
  • Ech closet is different and each person has different needs for utilizing their closet.
  •  Here are some TIPS on how to organize your clothes closet:
    • Sort your clothes:

– By FUNCTION: work clothes, dress clothes, casual, seasonal

– By TYPE: t-shirts, polos, long sleeve, sweaters, pants, skirts, dresses, jackets

– By COLOR  use the colors of the rainbow as a guide when sorting your colors ROYGBIV…red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet (with white in front and black at the end)

– Or a COMBINATION.  For example, I sort by type and color within each type (sleeveless shirts from white to black)

    •  Dedicate space for each person.  After you edit and have a better idea of how many clothes you have left, you can better establish the space required for each person.
    •  Don’t get too hung up on hangers!  I prefer to use the same type of hanger to keep a streamlined look in the closet.  For example…I don’t like plastic tubular hangers with my non-slip felt ones.  But my felt hangers aren’t the easiest to use especially on cotton crew neck tee-shirt.  So here are some tips with hangers:

 – If you want a streamlined look but need to use different hangers…try using the felt hangers along with the clear plastic hangers like you get from a department store.  Both usually have a silver metal hook, which is mostly what you see as you look across the clothing rod.

– For heavy jackets and coats…use wood or thick, wide plastic hangers specifically made for sport coats, and blazers etc.

To save space and/or prevent your clothes from sliding around, use the slimline/felt/flocked hangers.  I like these but because they are so thin they tend to break easily…not recommended for heavy coats and pants.  They work great however for spaghetti strap shirts and keeping light pants from sliding.

For slacks and skirts….I find the clear plastic hangers with the metal hook and clips work best.  The same as you see at department stores. 

For easy slip on and slip off hangers….your basic tubular hangers work best.  The downside to these is that they are slippery so sometimes shirts (especially womens shirts / spaghetti straps) fall off and pants that are folded over and hung on them tend to slide and scrunch up and wrinkle your pants. 

    • Another tip is to face all of your clothes in one direction. Have all of your clothes facing one way so that you can easily sift through or file through them.
    •  Most sweaters should be folded and stored on a shelf or in a drawer.  The reason is because they are usually pretty heavy and bulky and tend to get shoulder nipples if left on a hanger too long.  If you stack them on a shelf, try not to stack them more than 3-4 high (max 5) so they don’t unravel or topple over when you grab one from the middle of the stack.  You can also use sweater bins or slide on shelf dividers to keep them in place.
    •  Use containers.  There are a ton so let me just throw out some ideas to help you think about what might work for you:

 – Open bins and baskets are great for storing baseball caps, gloves, scarves, bulky belts, or winter caps.

 – Boxes are great for shoes.  I prefer clear stackable shoe boxes.  I also prefer them either at eye level or high on a shelf because they’re easier to see.

 – Canvas lidded boxes are nice to spruce up the look of your closet and keep it more streamlined.

 – Wide open tubs (wicker, metal or even plastic) are nice for tossing thin shoes like sandals and flip flops.

    • Use containers to take advantage of vertical space: 

– Stackable shoe boxes

– Stackable drawers (shoes, or other clothes)

– Stackable sweater bins

– Stackable cubbies (for shoes or purses that can either sit on the floor or on a shelf)

– Hanging shoes cubbies (shoes, rolled t-shirts, rolled swim trunks)

– Hanging shelf cubbies (great for bulky sweatshirts, sweaters, scarves, etc.)

Hooks on the wall for scarves, robes, belts and purses

– Over the door shoe organizers (shoes, belts, gloves, clutches, bangle bracelets, panty hose, socks, swim suits)

– Over the door hooks

– Belt and tie hangers or hooks

– Hook on hanging rod to had more hanging space

    • Of course you could also invest in a custom closet system…designed to fit your needs and take advantage of as much space as possible. Most have the following features:

– Adjustable shelves

– Adjustable clothing rods

– Slide out drawers

– Valet hooks

– Thin pull out drawers for jewelry

    • Seasonal clothing:  If you don’t have enough space to store current and out of season clothing,  then you’ll need to have a system of switching them out.  Here are just a couple of tips:

 – Before storing them away, dry clean natural fibers and delicates, wash all other clothing, don’t starch because critters like it, fix and mend clothing beforehand, and get a few humidity control packets or sachets and cedar balls to store in garment bags or boxes. 

– You can use a variety of containers and garment bags. Space bags are nice if you’re concerned about space and not so concerned about wrinkling your clothes.  Garment bags (not dry cleaners bags which should be removed right away) are nice for keeping out the dust and hanging either in the far corners of your closet or in another room.

– You can store your boxed up or bagged seasonal clothing under the bed or in your less frequently used areas of the closet like tucked down low in a corner or up high on the shelf.  You don’t want it taking up prime real estate.  Plastic bins in the attic should be fine. Just make sure the lid is tightly sealed with your sachets and humidity control packets.

 – For old, valuable or sentimental items you may want to consider getting archival boxes that will better protect them and store them inside or in a climate controlled area.

    •  My last tip is to Maintain your organized closet:

 – Label your bins, boxes, shelves, drawers and even your clothing rods.

– Don’t get the case of the ‘dropsies.’ Put your laundry in the hamper, put your shoes back on the shelf or in the box, and hang up your clothes.

– Use clear bins when possible.

– Have a good laundry routine…which should include folding and putting your clothes away right away.  Don’t let them pile up or get mixed in with the dirty clothes.

– Edit frequently…seasonally is nice…annual at the very least!

Dan’s Topic: Mentoring Our Younger Selves

  • How cool it would be and what you would say if you could go back in time to talk to your younger self. Geez…I’d give myself an earful!
  • We have an entire generation right now that, unlike many previous generations, has graduated college and a couple years later is still working in entry-level jobs, many still living at home with Mom and Dad, and they’re just dying to begin their lives.
  • Unfortunately, for most of them, their frustration is probably compounded because they have this consumeristic vision of what life is supposed to be like:
    • Graduate college, get offered amazing jobs immediately
    • Start at a good salary and reaching 6 figures in a couple years
    • Buy the big house, get all the toys…maybe get married or just move in with their significant other…
  • This has essentially become the contorted consumeristic model of what people where we live call the “American Dream” 
  • Trouble is, we can’t go back and mentor our younger self
  • Maybe we can mentor others instead...our surrogate younger selves?
  • While we can’t impose our beliefs on them, we can help them see that they don’t have to get to the point of having too much stuff and then trying to simplify.
    • Imagine how much more beneficial it would be if they didn’t have to get to the point of having too much.
    • What would it be like if they could embrace simplicity NOW, proactively, instead of reactively LATER in their lives?
    • So maybe if we could take the time to mentor just one young person it could make a difference.
    • Maybe it’s a family member, maybe one of your friend’s kids, someone at the office, or even one of your own kids.
    • You could forward them something that inspires you, a blog post you read, a good book you found, a podcast you listen to, or best of all, a personal story.
    • Throughout history, some of the most profound teachers use allegory and parables to get the point across.
      • Our lives, our victories and our mistakes, make great fodder for that.
      • So pass some of that on.
      • Granted, they may not be eager to listen…I know I wasn’t…but we should at least try.
  • So here are a few things I’d tell my younger self if I could…not just about simplicity but about other stuff, too. I could go on all day, but I’ll just limit it to just these:
    • All those mistakes you make in life that you beat yourself up for and are secretly embarrassed about…that keep you from trying them again or something like it? You’re the only one who remembers them, so get over it.
    • If you have to buy it with credit, you probably don’t need it. Never tell a salesperson “I just need my monthly payment to be no more than $XX” because you might just as well write “I’m a Sucker and have no concept of what interest or amortization is” across your forehead.
    • Many people are drawn to drama like moths to a flame. Don’t be a moth. Drama is clutter.
    • Tell the truth…it’s a lot easier. Lies and deceit are clutter. Don’t get me wrong, they work short term…but they ALWAYS come back to bite you in the fourth point of contact. Besides, once you compromise your integrity, it takes a long time to grow back.
    • Remember after boot camp how good it felt to be able to fit everything you own in a duffle bag? Well, be careful what “stuff” you let into your life. You don’t own things, things own you.
    • Learn to eat better now. You know how that “winter weight” just seems to melt away every Spring? Yeah, well, it’s stops doing that when you turn 27. You know how much fun those half marathons are? Especially when you don’t even have to train for them? Well, again, learn to eat better now because after 37 you won’t be able to do any more running…
    • Even the Jones’s can’t keep up with the Jones’s. The Jones’s have been brainwashed by marketers. They actually believe all that stuff makes them happier.
    • There are gurus and there are experts, but AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE anyone who calls themselves a guru or an expert.
    • There is no magic pill, no easy button, no master blueprint. You have to find the answers for yourself. No one will give them to you. They’ll help…but you have to find the answers that are right for you.
    • Too much of any good thing has the opposite effect. It doesn’t matter if it’s money, oxygen, togetherness, solitude, water, exercise, food….and yes, even money.  It’s just a rule. That’s how it is.
    • Speaking of money, be careful with it. Respect it and use it wisely. Best of all, share some with those who really need it.
    • Remember and contemplate often Occam’s Razor, the Pareto Principle and Parkinson’s Law (you can learn more about these in Episode 4)
    • There ARE some shortcuts to difficult things in life. But shortcuts are seldom easy. If it was really shorter and really easier…it would just be “the way.”
    • The last one for now…pick your friends and those you love wisely. They may never fully understand you, but pick those that will be there to support you and, as we say in the military, those that have your “six.”
  • So, although we can’t go back and mentor our younger selves, I think we can make the world a little better by taking the time to mentor someone else. Still, it’s exciting thing to think about it from time to time.
  • So if you have a few spare moments, think about what is that you’d pass on. What unique experiences to you have that someone just starting out would be better off knowing. What do you wish you knew back in the day? Maybe it’s time to share that.
  • Maybe in the end, we can change someone else’s history by helping them plan a simpler future, starting right now.

Thing Segment

  • Vanessa’s Thing: Gushing over my daughter.
    • Started her own little Bible Study with her stuffed animals.
    • Decided all on her own that she wanted to give away her stuffed animals to a kid that doesn’t have any.
    • I was definitely proud of her but it was also confirmation of the things I teach about how you can teach your children to embrace certain beliefs, values and concepts if you stay dedicated to teaching them and being consistent.
    • IT WORKS FOLKS!
  • Dan’s Thing: Our New AeroPress Espresso & Coffee Maker!
    • We had a regular drip coffee maker and then we switched to the Keurig when all the cool kids were doing it.
    • The we realized just how expensive the coffee was for the Keurig and switched back to the Krups drip machine.
    • But…ok, and I know this sounds picky…but it tastes kinda bitter.
    • We have some long-term plans to be doing some serious extended camping.

    • When we camp we use either:
      • A percolator…which I can’t stand because the coffee gets full of grounds…
      • Or those little Via packs from Starbucks, which require a home equity loan with a co-signer to purchase.
    • So…while looking for a coffee maker solution for camping, I at first thought about a sturdy French Press…but still, clean up is a pain.
    • Then I remembered hearing about the AeroPress!
    • The AeroPress is this super simple clear plastic tube that, candidly, looks like something Austin Powers would order from Sweden but say “it isn’t even my bag, baby.”
    • It makes the perfect espresso, the perfect cup of Joe, at the perfect temperature.
    • It’s about $25 bucks, super easy clean-up, and we’re using it not just for camping, but we’ve put the drip machine away.
    • And THAT, ladies and gentlemen…is my thing!

Links

Amazon.com Link to Support Charity Water

Austin Powers Swedish Device

AeroPress 

Velvet/Flocked Hangers

Clear Hangers

Canvas Shoe Hangers

Canvas Sweater Hanging Shelves

Over-The-Door Hook  

Tie and Belt Organizer  

Clear Shoe Drawers Bins  

Purse/Shoe Cubbies  

Shelf Dividers  

 

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SLT 019: Juicing Simplified with Farnoosh Brock & Simple Travel Tips

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Juicing Simplified w/Farnoosh Brock & We’re Taking You On Vacation!

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Dan and Vanessa Topic: Just a Few Travel Tips From The Road….Literally!

Well, if the show sounds a bit different it’s because we’re on the road. That’s right, we’re taking you on vacation! It’s actually a “working trip” for us.

We’ve never recorded on the road (we literally recorded our segment in the car).  The sound quality is just a bit off from our normal audio but not bad considering the circumstances! The interview however is excellent!  Just sayin….

Anyhoos…typically when we have a guest interview we do a combined topic.  Since we want you to enjoy the entire interview, we decided to do a shorter segment for our topic.

Additionally, when we know we are going to be out of town for a week, we try to record an episode in advance.  Well, we ended up having  such a busy week with clients leading up to our trip, that we simply ran short of time to prepare two episodes in only 3 days!

It may not seem like a lot of work but each episode takes at least 16 hours to prep, record, edit in post-productions, post show notes, post in iTunes, etc.  We are still on our journey to simplify this process…believe us we are! Thankfully it is a labor of love…truly!!!!

So, speaking of simplifying and in keeping with our philosophy on most things in life…we decided to keep our segment…well, you know…simple. 

And since we’re on a road trip we decided to share a few travel tips with you.  Here are the things we discussed:

  • How we were able to pack 9 days of clothes for 3 people in just one piece of luggage.
  • How to easily travel with electronics using the Grid-It system by Cocoon.
  • How to ensure you’ll actually get to listen to your podcasts even when the 4G network gets ‘patchy.’
  • How bringing our little Apple TV replaced old school slide projectors to enjoy family slideshows and videos!

Interview with Farnoosh Brock of Prolific Living and her newly released book, The Healthy Juicer’s Bible.

We’ve mentioned on the show before that we like to juice. We started juicing a little over a year ago in December of 2011 after Dan was completely and totally inspired by Joe Cross’s film, Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead (this is an Amazon affiliate link but the movie is available for free on Netflix if you’re a member) which he saw on Netflix over 20 times since.

Dan decided to try juicing and Vanessa decided to jump on board too and we’ve been hooked ever since.

So, we thought it would be great to invite Farnoosh Brock (a friend we met at the World Domination Summit in 2011) who just published and released her new book, The Healthy Juicer’s Bible. It was released by Skyhorse Publishing and is selling out everywhere!

Farnoosh is amazing, talented and a such a delight to talk with.  We think you’ll really love the interview!  Here are some of the questions we asked!

1. So Farnoosh, who are you and how do you make people’s lives simpler?

2. Do you remember your first fresh juice? If you can, tell us where and when that was, and what went through your mind before you drank it?

3. When we talk about juicing, one of the first questions we’re asked is what’s the difference between juices and smoothies, or juicing and blending. How would you answer that?

4. So Farnoosh, what would you list as some of the benefits of juicing?

5. How do you recommend people get started with juicing?

6. Dan’s been a member of your Green Juicing Clinic for almost a year now…since the start…and I love it! Tell us how you came up with that concept and a bit about the clinic.

7. That leads us to your brand new and beautiful book “The Healthy Juicer’s Bible.” We love this little book! It is jam packed with great info, terrific tips, and the pictures are absolutely beautiful, too! Tell us how the book came about.

8. You know we’re all about simplifying and for new juicers the whole process can seem a bit intensive. Can you share some tips on how you’ve simplified your juicing?

9. Alright…we gotta ask…you’re stranded on a tropical island…thankfully there’s a solar powered juicer there and and this tropical island just happen to grow all the ingredients to your favorite juice. What juice would that be?

10. Do you have any tips for juicing on the go or when you travel?

The Thing Segment

Dan’s Thing:  His love of podcasts and audiobooks and being able to take advantage of our road trip to catch up on many of them.

Vanessa’s Thing:  Being able to help her in-laws organize their paper files by consolidating numerous boxes and folders into one, consolidated filing system that’s easy for everyone to access.

Feedback

You have been great about leaving iTunes ratings and reviews and we hope you keep it up. We’ve had reviews from:

Links

The Healthy Juicer’s Bible

Green Juicing Clinic 

All of Farnoosh’s books on Amazon

Get Simplifized: How To Travel With Electronics

Get Simplifized: Belkin Travel Surge Protector

 

 

SLT018: Evernote Simplified (Part 2) & Time Saving Productivity Tips

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This week we continue with Evernote Simplified, Part 2, and Vanessa shares some awesome time saving productivity tips! So many people tell me that they love Evernote, but sometimes don’t “get” exactly how to use it. Sure, there’s lots of “technical” references out there about Evernote, but what their really looking for is Evernote simplified!

So let’s get started! Read more…

SLT017: Evernote Simplified (Part 1), & A Focus on Fitness

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Today’s show is about focus…from two very different perspectives. First, we’re going to focus on how to use Evernote, and then shift the focus to fitness.

How to use Evernote

Dan’s Topic: Evernote Simplified (Part 1)

  • OK so unless this is your first time listening to the podcast, you might know that I’m an Evernote fan. And one of the most requested things I’m asked to talk about is Evernote. So, by popular demand, my topic for this show and next week’s will be Evernote!  Read more…

SLT 016: Making Decisions Like a Fighter Pilot & Frugal vs. Cheap

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Making Decisions Like a Fighter Pilot & Frugal vs. Cheap

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Dan’s Topic: The OODA Loop

Our Decisions, Our Future

  • You’ll recall that the 5 pillars we focus on for OUR simple life together are Faith, Family, Finances, Fitness and Future
  • Well, our Future is determined every single day by decisions that we make
  • We make decisions all the time…daily in fact…most of them without any effort whatsoever
  • But isn’t it funny how simple these “automatic” decisions are when other decisions lead us to hours, days, and sometimes months or years of contemplation and struggle and hemming and hawing?

Introducing the OODA Loop

  • Today I want to talk about decision-making and a very simple framework that you can use to help with your decision-making
  • This process is called the OODA Loop, as in O-O-D-A
  • OODA stands for Observe-Orient-Decide and Act. The OODA Loop is a recurring decision-making process…a cycle, if necessary…developed by Col John Boyd, who was a fighter pilot and later a Pentagon consultant after he retired. Col Boyd is also credited with being the key planner for Operation DESERT STORM
  • While Boyd’s OODA loop concept began in fighter pilot circles, its also pretty popular in other combat ops units, too. It’s become so popular, in fact, that it has since spread to the civilian word…becoming popular in business, sports, and becoming quite popular with attorneys in the litigation process
  • So, if you’ve never heard of the OODA loop before and are wondering how this little tool can help simplify your life…well, I’m here to share that with you.

What’s the Scoop on the OODA Loop?

  • The premise of the OODA Loop is that through a recurring cycle of OBSERVE-ORIENT-DECIDE-ACT you can  “get inside” an opponent’s decision making cycle and gain the advantage.
  • But it’s not solely for use against what would traditionally be called “opponents”. In business, competitors would be a more appropriate term than “opponent’ or “enemy” and even more generically, in life, “situations” can be our opponent when we’re trying to achieve our goals.
  • And, well, we all know that clutter and complexity are our enemy, so I cover how the OODA loop can help you out there, too!
  • So, with the OODA Loop, if you can get through the observe-orient-decide-act cycle quicker than your opponent or faster than the situation unfolds, you’ll come out on top!
  • So, let’s break it down…

OODA Loop Phases

  • First, let’s talk about the phases of the OODA Loop
  • The first step is OBSERVE. Essentially, this is when you notice a situation that is a potential problem. It’s simple, you see something, you observe it. No judgements are made in this phase.
  • The next step is ORIENT. This phase is the biggie…this is where your entire past comes into play. We have to put what we’re seeing into a context so we can later make a decision. In the ORIENT phase, we use our hard-wired instincts, intuition, our history, our knowledge, our experience, new information, split-second analysis…even our mental predictions of what the outcome or impact of potential decisions could be…all to orient ourselves as to what we’re observing
  • Once we’ve OBSERVED and ORIENTED, we can then DECIDE. We make decisions every day, and when we do, our decisions aren’t just based on the current situation, as I just mentioned in the ORIENT phase, they’re based on everything we’ve soaked in over our lifetime. But our decisions are often limited to a reasonable, limited set of choices. We’ll get to that in a moment.
  • So…now it comes time to ACT. Acting is just following through with your decision. Simple as that.
  • But the OODA loop process doesn’t stop there. Remember, it’s a loop so it can be repeated over and over again until there’s a final outcome. Of course, in Colonel Boyd’s model, this would likely take place at altitude with two pilots dogfighting until one of them is the victor. In my former world it takes place on the ground as you and you enemy fire and maneuver until one no longer returns fire. Each step in these battle scenarios requires another cycle through the OODA Loop.

OK…So Here’s an Example

  • In your world, the OODA loop may help you as you battle your clutter or as you fight your consumeristic tendencies.
  • Let’s say you’re doing the Edit & Forget It Challenge and you’re going through a storage area. With each item, you can use the OODA loop to help your tackle the whole job.
  • With each item you’ll go throughout the phases…
    • Observe: OK, here’s a widget
    • Orient: Do I need this, have I used this, do I love this, can I see myself needing this soon, what will I do if I don’t have it, can I borrow it…etc
    • Decide: Keep it or not. If not, what am I going to do with it? KEEP-TOSS-RECYCLE-DONATE-TRASH (each one of these may require it’s own OODA loop
    • Act: Follow through! Don’t make the mistake of waiting!
      • oo-oo-oo you know what that is?

How Can I Use the OODA Loop?

  • Remember…this is a decision making framework. You can use this for decision making of almost any kind, not just in battle or in editing…in almost anything!
    • Use OODA Loop on your Inbox, when shopping, buying a new car
    • We have a good friend John over at LetsReverseObesity.com whose goal is to control the forces that allow him to overeat…anyone trying to change behavior or start a new habit will meet challenges and obstacles along the way
    • Each one of those is a decision point…and having a decision-making framework can help you make decisions that are aligned with your goals
    • The OODA loop can easily become a nearly instantaneous cycle or you can use it to make more detailed deliberate decisions

Don’t Forget the End State!

  • So, armed with your news OODA loop, let’s get back to where I started when I said “our Future is determined every day by decisions we make”
  • If you’re a regular listener, and we hope you are, then like us you’re on a journey to simplify your life
  • And hopefully you’ve taken some time to really reflect on your life plan…what you want your life to look like down the road
  • We always talk about the “desired end state” or what you want things to look like in the end as the best place to start out.
  • Imagine starting out on a long road trip without a destination in mind. It’s kind of hard to plan things out, isn’t it? Why take that chance with your life?
  • The reason I bring all this back up is that if “our Future is determined every day by decisions we make” then we need to keep that desired future in mind when we go through our decision making process. So, in the OODA loop, our desired end state should certainly be a consideration when during the ORIENT and DECIDE phases.
  • Just like your personal values and morals shape your decisions, so too should plans for your future as they’ll be directly effected by those decisions

Final Thoughts

  • So, give the OODA loop a shot and see if it works for you
  • Maybe having your goals well thought out, and a solid framework in place will lead you further down the path on your journey with a few less stumbling points along the way
  • So, give the OODA loop a shot and let us know how it works out for you!

Vanessa’s Topic: Being Frugal vs. Being Cheap

A couple of weeks ago I was with a group of women and the subject of makeup and the best facial skin care products came up. One of the gals said the best lipstick was made by Chanel. When I asked her how much it cost she said $38…with other lipsticks up to $50! I was like….that’s nearly half my electric bill for this month! I can get 3-5 decent lipsticks for the price of one!

I was shocked at the price because I just can’t justify (personally) spending that kind of money for lipstick.  Probably because I came from humble beginnings and was never really exposed to high-end/designer labels and such. Let me just say…just because I don’t shop high-end designer labels, doesn’t mean I don’t care about how I look or about quality.  I do!  But just on a budget.

The whole situation got me to thinking…do I sound like I’m being cheap?  Do my friends and colleagues think I’m cheap because I don’t have designer sunglasses, handbags, or shoes?  Do my clients judge me?  Well I decided to jump on the internet to see if I could answer the question: “Am I being frugal…or am I being cheap?”

As I sifted through the various articles I found a few that for me, clearly explained the difference, so I thought I would highlight some of the better explanations and examples of what I found….because I think it’s bound to be a question or topic that comes up with this type of lifestyle that we are living or striving to live.

Definitions of Being Frugal and Being Cheap.  Here are a couple of definitions I found on a couple of different sites:

  • “Frugality is in the center of the money spectrum, between cheapness and extravagance.  Like most good things, frugality taken to either extreme is not a good thing. It is the wise and intentional use of money whether saving or spending.” (from Life Renewed)
  • “Being cheap is a reluctance to spend money, even on things that are necessary and needed. Cheapness is selfishness and often results from fear; fear of running out of money and not being able to take care of yourself and your family. Cheapness is only concerned about spending the least amount of money possible” (from Life Renewed)
  • “Cheap people care about the cost of something; frugal people care about the value of something.” (from AskMen.com)

Examples of Being Cheap vs Being Frugal (From Life Renewed):

  • “Cheap is buying stuff on sale just because it’s probably the best or only time to get this item at such a cheap price….Frugal is buying only what is needed, wanted and by researching the best deal.”
  •  “Cheap is buying the cheapest food (restaurants or grocery stores) without any care for quality or nutrition…Frugal considers cost of food but with regard to quality and health benefits.”
  •  “Cheap is not tipping at restaurants or not paying your share of the tip on a group ticket…Frugal budgets for eating out which includes tax and tip.”
  •  “Cheap is suffering living in a hot or cold house because you don’t want to spend too much on the utilities…Frugal finds the right temperature that is economical and within a budget and not wasteful.”
  • “Cheap is lying about your kids’ age to get a discount…Frugal is planning and budgeting outings with your family that consider the costs of such outings.”

Examples and Thoughts on Frugal vs Cheap from Mr. Money Moustache:

  • “It’s all in your head….many of the worst spending addicts do so because of their imaginary fantasies about social status.”
  • “Frugal doesn’t mean owning mostly crap.  Cheap people will keep things like old appliances even though they are not efficient, energy efficient or even safe.  They just don’t want to buy new.  A frugal person will buy a newer one product because it’ll probably save time and energy.”
  • “Frugal doesn’t mean you don’t spend on yourself.” You should still enjoy a date night here and there with your spouse…treat friends or family to dinner every now and again…get a massage every once in a while….just don’t become a pamper-me addict!

Example from Choosing Voluntary Simplicity: 

  • “Frugality has become almost synonymous with deprivation and denial and understandably, this kind of negative frugality turns most people off….when frugality is base on your own values and what You want out of life, it can only be a positive influence.  It’s not about spending less money…how you choose to spend your time and how you choose to conserve other resources should all be part of the total equation.”

Frugality…What’s It All Worth?

  • “It is balancing your needs and wants of today with those needs and wants of tomorrow…it is not a destination but a journey.” (Life Renewed)
  • I totally agree with this!  I say all the time that it’s ok to spend money on things you need and even want…as long as it’s deliberate, thoughtful and won’t hurt you or interfere with your long-term goals.  It’s the spending every dime you have the second you get it with no regard for your future…or saving every dime you have and not enjoying a damn thing in life….that’s what will get you in trouble or living a life of regret.

My Thoughts:

  • Being frugal helps you to have a better understanding of, appreciation for and relationship with your money.  Being frugal usually means that you’ll have a better understanding of what “living within your means” really means…with benefits of avoiding debt, avoiding bad purchases, avoiding foreclosures, etc.
  • It helps you to analyze, and focus on your “important goals and priorities.” 
  • I also think that when you’re frugal..you usually end up with more time and means to do things you really want to do…not just living paycheck to paycheck. It can allow you to allocate those resources (time and money) to other causes or priorities….donating to charities…giving your time to help others…etc.
  • Yet again, we come to an idea or concept that isn’t “cookie-cutter” perfect.  Frugality is different for everyone.  But after reading these articles and many ideas on the topic I’ve come to conclude that the idea of being frugal is a concept of being in control, being more mindful, and being deliberate so that you can live a life on purpose…without the pressure of trying to achieve what society or mainstream America defines as success. It’s about living in the moment (responsibly of course) and also looking forward to the good things that lay ahead.  It’s not about being selfish, stingy or living in fear.  It’s all about defining life on your own terms and securing your freedom to live a life with meaning.

The “Thing” Segment:

Dan’s Thing:  The GOOD-FAST-CHEAP Conundrum

I’ve noticed in life that products you need typically only meet 2 of the 3 criteria on the FAST-GOOD-CHEAP model.

  • You can have Good/Fast: Usually that’s usually an expensive option…so be prepared to pay
  • You can have it Good/Cheap: But typically not available within your timeframe…so planning is a must
  • The worst products typically fall into the Fast/Cheap category: They usually also end up as a “clutter producing” option…or are the result of an “impulse buy”

The best way to avoid the FAST-GOOD-CHEAP conundrum? Identify your true needs, do some research, and plan in advance.

Vanessa: Brene Brown’s book: Daring Greatly.

In the book she was talking about practicing courage and facing our shame and vulnerabilities…in particular she was describing a moment where she experienced shame and that her advice to people who experience the same thing is to “own the story ” and not bury it.  She quoted Carl Jung (famous psychotherapist) who said, “I am not what has happened to me.  I am what I choose to become.”  I thought that was so powerful because too often we let shame control and silence us.  By owning your pain, and admitting your vulnerabilities, somehow you  become stronger.  Highly recommend anything by Brene Brown…I’m a total fan!

 Edit & Forget It Update!

Lots of new folks to the Facebook Edit & Forget It page this past week! So if you signed up for Edit & Forget It, join the fun over on FB, too! It’s never too late to join the Challenge, it’s going on all year so if you’re ready to edit 2013 things from your life, head on over to SimpleLifeTogether.com and  sign up!

A special shout out to Former President George Bush for his support in the video he did for the Edit & Forget It Challenge Facebook page. Regardless of your politics toward the former Prez, it’s nice to know he supports our efforts at Simplificatin’.

Feedback:

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Closing Thoughts:

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